About Josh Stieber, Conor Curran, and their Contagious Love Experiment…
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Let me start at the begining…
I was in middle school when I saw 9/11 on the news. I saw the hole in the Pentagon firsthand. For months afterwards, I’d wake up early before school to watch the news and better understand the situation. I understood that there were people out there who wanted to destroy my country and hated my religion. My religion (church, religious school) promoted war and I made a deal with God that if the war was still going on when I graduated high school, I would be honored to enlist in the army as an infantryman.
Well, the war was still going on and I was somewhat glad that I hadn’t missed out on the action. I left for basic training in July of 06 and was deployed to Baghdad by Feb of 07.
I had grown up hearing ideas like “love your enemies”, “return evil with good”, and “judge not lest you be judged”. But I treated these sayings that the central figure of my religion taught as if they were just nice sounding lines, but not practical. But slowly, my excuses started to fade away. I learned that the military trains people to hate and dehumanize entire people groups, not showing sadness for the difficult task of “removing evil”. I learned that the Iraqis weren’t waiting for us with open arms, men, women, and children from the town we were in protested our presence. I learned innocent people die. I learned that it doesn’t matter what uniform you have on, it’s about what’s inside. And sadly, the military tries to rob you of what’s inside and the result is people treating killing like a joke and showing little care for human life.

It took a few wake up calls and the examples of other historical figures like Gandhi, Tolstoy, and MLK for me to run out of excuses for not living up to the man I claimed I believed in. He said “love as I have loved you”. And the things I was doing and contributing to were showing just the opposite. After times of desperation and depression, the answer I found was love; it’s stronger than fear, hate, suffering, and death.

I knew I couldn’t keep doing what I was doing, so when I got back from my 14 month deployment to Iraq in April of 08, I planned on taking the money I had been given to kill and destroy my nation’s “enemies” and walking to the military pay headquarters and giving that money back, telling them it wasn’t something I’d participate in anymore and if I had to serve the rest of my enlistment in jail, then that’s where I needed to be.
Then I learned of conscientious objection, a militarily recognized status that someone’s beliefs has changed so that they are no longer compatible with war. I debated with myself over which option to take. Finally, I figured that as many problems as I had with the system, at least they showed some degree of respect for people’s beliefs, so I would give it a fair shot.
As I waited until April of 09 for final approval, my plan of spite, of throwing the money back in the government’s face evolved into the walk I’m on now. If I am saying no to war, I want to find out what to say yes to. I want to take a negative and invest it into a positive. In a country where war is preached from the churches, I want to do a little to remember the man who those churches are built for, the man who visited the orphans, served the poor, clothed the naked, fed the hungry… and loved. So that’s what I’ve set out to do and I hope that that love is contagious.

Spreading the love
On August 10th a fellow veteran, Conor Curran, joined the contagious love experiment. He tells some of his story here:
I grew up in a Christian home, where strict moral guidelines molded my behavior and being. I felt in place with my Christian values as my parents surrounded me with like minded people in the schools they sent me to, along with the youth groups and churches I participated in. As I started to enter my teen years, however, my foundation in my faith began to be rocked. I moved, entered a new school, and was no longer surrounded by my like minded people of faith.
After being swept away from my comfort zone, I began to look at the knowledge handed to me from a different perspective. I began to see the Christian church as an entity completely separate and perverted from values it preached from the Bible, and around the age of 16, I rejected my faith. I made the assumption that if there was truly a God, surely those claiming to be his people would walk in his path illustrated in the Bible. The world around me was showing me otherwise. At this point I stopped looking for spiritual fulfillment in my life and began searching for things to make my body feel good, I started my constant pursuit of the next rush of experience to make me feel alive.
My experiments with drugs began, as well as challenging authority, playing in extreme sports and dangerous activities. I set out and began to experience all that I could in this short, Darwinistic life, along the way laughing at all those giving their valuable time to this imaginary God. Soon enough I was off to college to pursue photography, to show our troubled world to these religious folks who had forgotten about anything but their plush American life. I also had it set in my heart to photograph wars, to bring to the American people disgusting images of a problem I saw created by religion (I had a spiteful feeling in my heart about religion at this point, and figured in one way or other it was the cause of all wars). Yet, as college went on, I found my soul becoming more and more addled and I slipped more and more into drugs and drinking. Soon enough I had quit college and spent all my free time with my friends getting wasted, or making money to get wasted later that night.
Before long I began to see my friends become gripped by hard drugs, and while I wasn’t doing great understanding life, I saw myself heading down this same path. I may have been confused about what to make of myself, but a drug addict was one thing I did not want to define my life as, so I started looking for a way out of my current situation. I began to remember a childhood dream of mine, the seed of it planted when I was still a fundamental Christian. I had once wanted to be one of the few, the proud, I had wanted to be a Marine. When I went into the recruiters office, Marines began to show me a way out of my troubled wasting life, and I was thinking that the worst thing that could happen to me, death, is already where I was quickly headed anyways, so why not join?
Boot camp began a new chapter in my life, suddenly I had a purpose in my life. I now had constant string of goals I could strive for over my life, goals others would respect when I achieved them. Not only that, but these goals were filled with adventure and the extremes of experience, an honorable way of making me feel alive and excited in the way I once used drugs and delinquency to do. I didn’t mind that my country was at war. I never stopped to think of whether it was right or wrong, all I knew is that everyone was proud of my bravery and saying I was fighting for something good, and I liked that.

I served two twos in Iraq, my first I spent clearing roadside bombs with a route clearance team between Fallujah and Ramadi. My next tour I spent attached to a company of infantry working out of the city of Ramadi. During my tours I prided myself on being able to fulfill my orders quickly and well, and in doing so I rose up the rank structure quickly, becoming a Sergeant in about three years. I saw and heard many things in the war which disgust me now, but I dismissed them as a simple and necessary part of the military machine which treated a good, motivated Marine like me well, so I shrugged them off. I knew that I would not re-enlist after my four years, and with that thought, I held myself above most other Marines and placed the blame of what I had seen and some of the things I had done on the shoulders of the men who would stay in.
After I received my discharge papers I headed back to my hometown, planning to go to school, move in with my girlfriend, and resume life as normal. As I began to resume the normal motions of living, the more and more I realized that inside something wasn’t normal, and going through the typical motions of life wasn’t changing that. The guilt I thought I was leaving behind with the Marines was still present. I felt an anger well up in me I couldn’t understand, until walking down the street one day I realized what the cause of the anger was. I saw the potential in each person I passed in the street to carry out harm or some type of negative action. Each organization or entity I encountered I judged and in doing so, was able to pick out flaws in what they were doing. I realized I had been living my life preparing myself to handle anything negative another may do to me, and in doing so I had involved myself in a life of callousness, war and anger. As I tried to figure out why I was this way, the realization struck that it was the way I had been taught to live. The Church taught me to fear the devil and be ready to fight him off, my parents taught me to fear strangers and be ready to run, my schools taught me to fear speaking my mind to avoid ridicule, and the news as well as society taught me to, well, fear everything in general. Worst of all I had taught myself to take this all in, and add some of my own rough life experiences to this mindset of fear and anger.
After this realization I decided to stop looking at people thinking of the negative things they’re possible of, and to simply see them as fellow beings. When I did that, I began to feel the anger in my life slip away. Happiness began to fill the voids in my life, and a spring crept into my step. The people I encountered seemed to change their attitude as well, everyone seemed to become more kind and receptive. Upon seeing this the wheels in my head began to churn. Did all of the worlds problems stem from a lack of kindness, a lack of love? When people weren’t faced with a judgment, were they now free to be anything they wanting instead of the negative person I had been judging them as? As these questions bounced around in my head, I decided not only would I try to not judge the people I meet. Instead, I would try to love them and see what happens. As I began this new exercise in love, I found my life transformed and refreshed, and the people in my life seemed to be changed and renewed as well. Was love contagious, could it change the world? As each day went on I became more and more convinced that the answers to these questions are yes, and finally the truth hit me, yes, love IS the only way to change the world. I began to take responsibility for all I’ve done in my life and not place blame on others, and from now on I wanted to be responsible for acting in love. Deciding to follow this path of love has opened up a new and amazing chapter in my life, a chapter which has been filling my life with love and happiness and has put me on this amazing journey with Josh, during which I can explore and experience the transforming qualities of love in a very special way. Man, am I excited…
Dear friend Josh–
My best wishes are with you every step of the way in this journey of hope and discovery. I am moved by your vision and your courage. Please do keep me posted.
Peace,
Dave
By: Dave on March 10, 2009
at 2:29 am
Josh,
I loved reading your story. It’s great to hear of someone’s transformation from soldier to peacemaker. Have you heard of Peace Pilgrim? She was a spiritual woman who walked the length and breadth of the United States and parts of Canada and Mexico, spreading her message of peace. Since you are doing something similiar, you may be interested in reading one of her books. Just google Peace Pilgrim and you should find a way to get her books. If not, try Amazon. I very grateful to hear of your mission. I feel the same way you do about peaceful and loving solutions for world peace. If You plan to come through Long Beach, California, let me know. I belong to two peace groups and would be happy to organize a welcome for you in Long Beach or nearby communities.
All Best,
Leonard Baric
Long Beach Area Peace Network
Veterans For Peace, Chapter 067 (supporter)
By: Leonard Baric on June 25, 2009
at 6:51 am
I look forward to hearing about your experiences as you travel. You know that Mike and I are here for you, just let us know if there is anything else we can help with!
By: Krista on March 22, 2009
at 5:50 pm
Hey,
I heard about your Love Experiment through my girlfriend Nik Sushka at Montgomery College. This is a great idea.
What exactly are you thinking as far as walking versus bicycling? When I was seventeen I bicycled 2.800 miles across the United States for the Route Six Tourist Association. It was a couple years after the Association had sponsored a man named Joe Hurley to walk the same route.
Anyways, I’m in the Maryland area, I love bicycling and have two older brothers that are Army Rangers. If I can be of any assistance, great, if not I’d still love to do lunch sometime. My e-mail is dlkunes@gmail.com
Take care,
Dave
By: Dave Kunes on April 28, 2009
at 10:39 pm
Best of everything on your journey. I hope you’re checking out couchsurfing.com to find some lodging along the way.
By: Nik on April 29, 2009
at 1:48 pm
Couchsurfing.com has been a great program! Thanks for the encouragement : )
By: contagiousloveexperiment on April 29, 2009
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Hi Josh,
My name is Jonathan and I work with a group called Peace Action. Jean Athey let me know about your situation and I’m happy to support you. I also work with a group called DCOI, and we work with soldiers and veterans organizing against the war. If you need a place to stay in Baltimore, you’re welcome to stay with us. We also have connections all over the country that may be able to offer support. Send me an e-mail and let me know. Jean has my cell phone number as well. Good luck and congratulations on achieving CO status!
In solidarity,
Jonathan
By: Jonathan Williams on May 12, 2009
at 4:00 pm
Dear Josh,
Thanks for your act of love!
We will keep track of your journey. We hope you’ll get to know us and about Our Journey to Smile in Afghanistan,which has LOVE as its foundations too ( in this part of the world, this principle is almost a ‘ridiculous’ laugh ).
And if Love or Life allows, we’d be glad if you could join us and others in Afghanistan on International Peace Day, as one of your ‘unusual stops’ in this journey of yours.
Thanks and Peace!
Hakim
On behalf of Our Journey to Smile
http://ourjourneytosmile.com/blog
By: Our Journey to Smile on May 25, 2009
at 4:45 am
Josh,
I had a similar experience when I went into the Air Force back in 1970 during the Vietnam war. It was a draft number of 24 that forced me into joining the military. I wanted to be a medic and help people instead of being part of the killing force. They put me into an air intelligence tech school which was interesting until the ending course was plotting the bombing runs. The thought of planning the path of destruction made me not want to be involved in this action. I again requested to be a medic and was moved into fueling aircraft instead. I was in for 21 months until I received a CO discharge after many obstacles including an eight month application and interview process. The most interesting interview was with the chaplain. I thought if anyone would be understanding in my views it would be this person. The guy was very critical and completely opposite of what I expected. At one point I asked him how he could be involved with the military as a man of God. He side stepped the issue and went on with his questions. He was the only one that said I was insincere. Even the base commander gave me a positive response suggesting an honorable discharge. I wish you much luck in your travels and searching for the positive and good things in life. Sorry you had to be exposed to the military and their focus of death and destruction.
Best wishes,
Don
By: Don Olliff on May 26, 2009
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Dear Don,
You wrote ” At one point I asked him how he could be involved with the military as a man of God.”
I had asked a sincere, kind, ‘born-again’ American believer and practitioner-of-‘love for his neighbor’ if he could imagine himself becoming a soldier in Iraq who may have to pull a trigger on a stranger, he replied ‘yes!’ without deliberation and awareness of any discrepancy.
I agonized, thinking,” How can Man dismantle this illogic when an all-powerful God can’t seem to or perhaps, the all powerful God is the cause of this deception’s assembly?”
Thanks and peace!
Hakim in Afghanistan
http://ourjourneytosmile.com/blog
By: Our Journey to Smile on May 27, 2009
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By: Next Left Notes (NLN) on June 14, 2009
at 5:04 pm
Josh, with people like you out there, maybe everyone will see that what we are doing in Iraq and elsewhere is just wrong.
Thank you for trying to open up there eyes.
Good luck to you.
Peace…
By: Addie on June 14, 2009
at 6:07 pm
I meant their!!
By: Addie on June 15, 2009
at 1:01 am
actually you were correct the first time.. I am looking forwaard to joining you in your walk around Boston soon
By: ray on July 3, 2009
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Wishing you well!
By: keepleftnyc on June 15, 2009
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My son was in Iraq as a mental health worker with the Army reserve. Now he is in Afghanistan as a medical trainer. I know how difficult it is for a person with a kind heart and mind to keep his values in these situations. I hope you will plan to come to the Boston area. You would be very welcome to stay with us. I belong to Military Families Speak Out and your link was sent me by another member of our organization. Your courage and clear vision are very beautiful gifts. Your commitment to tell your story will open many hearts and eyes to the pain we are causing the people of Iraq and Afghanistan and our soldiers. Thank you many times over, Sarah in Mass.
By: Sarah Fuhro on June 15, 2009
at 7:09 pm
Dear Josh,
I really think you are doing a great thing.I’m one of the 4th graders at davenport.I hope one day I could do the same thing your doing.Thank you for coming in to share some of your experience with us.
Thank You,
stefanie
By: stefanie on June 18, 2009
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This is a brave and difficult thing you are doing and I thank you so much for your act of courage. I look forward to meeting you and hearing you speak at our tentative event at the Peace Abbey in Sherborn on the 27th. There will be other hospitality invitations but I would give high recommendations to my friend Sarah Fuhro. Safe travels and thank you so much for your voice.
By: Carol Coakley on June 20, 2009
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Just in case you are ever in San Diego, I would be happy to have you stay here.
All these Veterans are our Sons and Daughters.
We MUST take care of them.
I am Robin Long’s adopted mom here, he is in the Brig @ Miramar and even though I have now two active duty and one IRR I fully support your CO status.
Peace and
SEMPER FIDELIS
Always faithful
NOT to a Political Party
NOT to a Man
Not to an Ideology
BUT TO MY COUNTRY
and its Vets
Dawn O’Brien
MFSO San Diego Chapter Leader
VFP SD Board Member
By: marinemomof3 on June 23, 2009
at 4:43 pm
Thank you Josh, for the witness you are making in the cause of peace. I admire your commitment, your courage and your truth.
maxine
By: maxine parent on June 26, 2009
at 5:20 pm
That’s some heavy material man, I’ll have to let you know how everything is this next deployment. It’s one of the few honest accounts of what it’s like.
I don’t know what route you’re taking, but if you need a place to crash in Kansas City, STL, or Chicago my family would be more than happy to let you crash with them.
I still have that book of yours, let me know an address where I can get it back to you.
By: Drew (2-16 RTO) on June 27, 2009
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Josh,
I met you after speaking in Cambridge, but only breifly to say thank you. You’re incredibly inspiring. What you said made me want to go out and make the world a better place… NOW!
I love all your views on non-violence, peace and love. All your wonderful views lead me to think you would be in support of gay marriage. I was just wondering if you were?
It doesn’t directly connect to your point but overall, to me, it’s something that is important to me. Just as spreading peace and love, I also want to bring justice and equality for all.
Thanks again for your inspiring words!
I look forward to hearing from you.
Emma
By: Emma Munson-Blatt on July 1, 2009
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Hi Emma,
Thanks for coming tonight. If you’re looking for a good place to start changing the world, I’ve put together many of the inspiring communitry-building ideas that I’ve been learning about on my trip up on a practical ideas page. If you have any other good ideas, please let me know!
So there’s the verse in the Bible about homosexuality being an abomination. I’ve been thinking about that lately actually… obviously I can’t go back in time and say exactly what the author was thinking, but other parts of the Bible accept slavery whereas we would be shocked if someone actually owned a slave today. So it seems like culture had a huge influence on these ideas. From what I understand of homosexuality back in the time that line was written, it was an under-the-carpet, often extra-marital situation. So if this is getting down to beliefs, I believe in commitmed and honest relationships and the culture back then, in relation to homosexuality was counterproductive to those relationships. The writer of that verse probably was more concerned with one’s spiritual growth than with creating a political movement. That idea can be a can of worms, I hope I making logical steps here… But in this culture, I think it is entirely possible to have a healthy homosexual relationship… especially if the sacred institution of American marraige is the standard of healthy relationships.
BUT, in any case, even if that idea was still culturally applicable today, demonizing homosexuals as God-hating, values-trashing, whorish scum is definitely not the right answer. I’ve seen friends who are gay treated like this by “respectable citizens” and I’ve seen “respectable citizens” absolutely offended and self-victimized when they take that common humanity that they deny someone who thinks differently than them.
Whatever you believe and however you live, seek inner-peace and let love shine into your actions and far be it from me to judge. I’ll be busy doing my best to live in that manner and if for some reason I do disagree with anyone, I hope my life and my example will be the most compelling reason for somebody to think differently.
This is something I still need to think through, what do you think?
Thanks!
Josh
By: contagiousloveexperiment on July 1, 2009
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Hi Josh–
I’m enjoying what you and others have written as you continue your voyage of discovery. As always, I feel blessed to count you as a dear friend–and fellow biker! I see you progressing and thank God
for your presence. Looking forward to your return to Kansas… –Dave
By: Dave on July 2, 2009
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Wow, Josh, this is awesome. It was great to meet you at Bikes Not Bombs the other evening. I had no idea of the depth of thought or intense openness to life and hope for our country you embody or I would have done significantly more talking (and, alas, probabaly less bike-part-sorting). I wish you the best of luck and hope that somewhere down the road our paths cross again. Truly, I am finding our country (and our world) to be at once both large and surprisingly small. Be well,
Ibti
By: :)Ibti on July 3, 2009
at 5:23 pm
If you get to New Orleans look me up. We would be happy to put together an event.
By: Gordon Soderberg on July 4, 2009
at 12:33 am
Dear Josh,
I would like to invite you to stay with my family while you’re in the Albany, NY area. Rest up and have some good food. I also have a youth group I really wish you would be able to speak with on the topic of CO. Is this possible? Email me directly if you wish-Eli
By: Eli on July 4, 2009
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You are a sad individual. As you protest the US Military across the US for their so called atrocities you should remember your brothers in arms who you turned your back on and deserted.
You should remember the millions of Iraqis who are now free to vote, to speak out and to live in what ever way they see fit. Are you too ignorant to realize that life there is better now than prior to 2003? Have you forgotten your basic 7 Army Values – Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor and Integrity? You are NONE of the above and a disgrace to the uniform. You are the type who should have never joined.
I wish you all the best in your journey of “peace” but always remember the soldiers who died so you could bash us in public and tell the world how wicked we are – while keeping you free.
By: David McDougle on July 4, 2009
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Hi David,
David,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I appreciate how deeply held your beliefs are and for seeking to live by these values.
I would ask though that before you accuse me of certain things, you learn more about what I’m saying and don’t categorize me as simply anti-war or whatever other stereotype I may resemble. My message has never been about how wicked soldiers are. If anything, I have made the effort to communicate to the peace community the good intentions and dedication soldiers and my dedication to learning about and promoting ways of solving problems that don’t involve war-if that is anti-American, then we need to reevaluate our values. My 1SG initially said similar things to me and called me a traitor and a terrorist, but as he got to know me better, became supportive of me and we left on good terms. My goal is not to make citizens hate soldiers.
I do have a problem with the system that takes the values which soldiers try to live out and twist it to have people put their life on the line for their economic benefit. The US is 6% of the world’s population but consumes 60% of it’s resources. That is not a prowar or antiwar statement, that is a simple mathematical fact. But that fact is the root behind the majority of our nation’s international strife. There is no glory or bravery in perpetuating this. The longer these policies go on, the more we are at risk, so speaking out, in my opinion, is not betraying the soldiers who have died, it is an attempt to wake up to what is really going and seeing who is causing the real problems and not simply taking things the military says at face value.
I don’t know what your experiences in Iraq were, I’d definitely be interested in hearing more about them. But I can say of mine that even the most dedicated of soldiers, with very few exceptions, acknowledged not only that what we were doing was futile, but that if the roles were reversed, they would become insurgents also. Loyalty, Integrity, and Honor do not mean simply believing everything the military says or that saying something contrary is despicable. And I’ve felt disgrace for the uniform, but I can tell you it was not from applying as a conscientious objector. The description of Iraq that you gave is very foreign to my experience and understanding. If you want to add me as a friend on facebook, I can show you the video of the town I was in in Iraq when they came out to protest our moving in to their neighborhood. I’m wondering if you know the civilian death toll from this war and whether their families consider their lives better off. The progress that I did see was when we sat down and negotiated with known insurgents which breaks down the idea so boldly proclaimed that “we will not negotiate with terrorists”. We did this on a day-to-day basis which makes me question whether or not war was necessary to begin with. And the “peace” that exists now, from my study and experience, seems more to be a case of not eliminating the “bad guys”, but of legitimizing them and putting them on government payrolls… compromise, not violence, made the change.
Like I said, I’ve had my experience and have tried to do my best to study other people’s, but I’m sure there are things I haven’t considered. Please share more about your experience if you think there’s something I’m missing. And I ask you to consider just thinking about the conclusion that violence has really solved the problem. Killing produces short-term results, but it is never the only option and I am doing everything I can to work for those other options in hopes that war won’t be considered the only means of action.
With respect,
Josh
By: contagiousloveexperiment on July 4, 2009
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David,
Your comment is disturbing, and the sort of judgemental or close-minded type of ignorance that keeps our country from the progress of change that it needs to survive. The things that you said are exactly why I still don’t support what the military is doing and why I promote peace.
You would think that after hundreds of years of this sort of violence that we would know better by now, but it is this type of brainwashed ignorance that keeps our country in the business of war and more of the same.
Your statement is typical, but Josh and Conor give me hope. Don’t kid yourself, David. You earn respect by giving respect. It does not come with a military title. I respect the people who can say no to war. No to guns. No to killing. That’s all it takes.
Choosing NOT to kill. That is honor. Choosing to promote peace and equality. That is integrity. Service to our country would be helping save lives, not take them. We cannot force our “freedom” on others.
The only TRUE freedom is our own freedom of THOUGHT. It is the only thing that NO ONE can take from us or fight for. It is yours. It is the ONLY thing that you have that is real freedom. Everything else is freedom as far as the people in power let us have or is written into law. Freedom of thought is the only thing that has no cost. You have the freedom to think as you want to. Action is different, don’t get me wrong. Just because you may have negative thoughts does not give you the right to act on it. Once it’s turned into an aciton, it is something else entirely. You only have the freedom to think. And…you have the freedom to learn and to change your thoughts.
You lose that freedom of thought when you join the military. You do what you are told to do. For whatever reason they give you; honor, integrity, etc- the only freedom that you truly have is gone. They put their thoughts, ideas, choices into your head, thus taking your true freedom away. Where is the honor in that? Is that integrity? Is that respect? No. It is similar to a cult. An organized religion. It is brainwashing. It is wrong. Don’t justify. Don’t make excuses. If you still think using force on people and killing is okay, then continue your path. Just don’t kid yourself and sugar-coat the truth. Be real. If you are acting on what YOU think is right (and not what someone is telling you is right) then more power to you.
Josh is not “bashing” anyone in public. He is not a disgrace to anyone. They turned their backs on no one. That is all brain-washed military rhetoric. Dying and killing for freedom? Pul-eeeze. Rhetoric. They have to make you believe that or no one would sign up, would they? Stop with the guilt bullsh*t that you are laying on them. That is part of the brainwashing process.
I serve my country. I serve all countries. I help build wells in Africa where the water is limited. I sponsor a girl’s education in Tibet who would not get to go to school otherwise. I volunteer with Hospice, St. Jude’s, and animal shelters across the country. I run an animal sanctuary (and rehab) to help sentient beings in need. I educate the children about kindness and peace. I shop Fair-Trade and live eco-friendly. I don’t eat meat. I am in the business of saving lives, not taking them. Yes, I also “serve”, but in a non-violent way. I have friends in a hundred other countries and hope to meet more. We all do our part to “serve” by promoting peace and understanding.
Funny, that people call me anti-American and non-patriotic because I choose not to harm. Because I spend my time helping anyone no matter the nationality or race or species. If that makes me anti-American (in your eyes), then I’m okay with that. You won’t find an American flag at my house. I have an Earth flag. It shows that we are all from the same place and everyone is equal. It does not excude anyone.
When we know better…we do better.
“Service” is not about joining or leaving the military. That is just a personal choice. There are greater ways to serve and do good without the violence. I hope for you, David, that it doesn’t take your whole life to figure that out. No one is calling the military “wicked”, but the actions of the military as it is today is pretty disturbing. I’d rather see the military helping out during the wildfires or natural disasters. Train to save lives, not take them. Put the guns down. That would be much more of what I expect from our “service” people.
Kudos to Josh and Conor for “getting it” early on! I am proud of them and so happy that they will help to enlighten others. We need more people such as them.
By: Michele McCowan on October 1, 2009
at 10:11 pm
Hi, Josh.
A friend of mine posted your blog link on Facebook today.
I haven’t read all your posts, so I don’t know if you’re toying with the prospect of relinquishing your Christian faith or not. I certainly see a great deal of disillusionment with what you learned at a young age.
I’d like to share with you a book that has made a great difference in my own faith. It’s SURPRISED BY HOPE by N.T. Wright.
Wright describes how most Christians have gotten some things wrong — e.g., what the resurrection is all about. He points out that what we believe about life after death has direct implications for what we believe about life before death. If we have got it right, that the resurrection of Jesus Christ is the beginning of God’s renewal plan, then what we do here and now is of great importance, as our job as Christians is to bring healing and hope in ALL that we do.
I’ve been a Christian since I was a teen ager and have always had enormous respect for Noam Chomsky. I met him briefly when I was 20 at a linguistics lecture. The man has more integrity in his little finger than most people have at all. Christians should care deeply about the injustices that Mr. Chomsky highlights, as the Lord cares even more deeply about these injustices!
I hope you will check out the Wright book.
I wish you the best in your love experiment.
-Constance
By: Constance Semler on July 5, 2009
at 5:05 pm
Dear Josh,
Press on!
If you get a chance to meet any Christian leader or Muslim leader in the States, could you please ask if they think that the war in Afghanistan is spiritually and religiously or conscientiously ‘just’?
Thanks and peace!!
Hakim in Afghanistan
By: Our Journey to Smile on July 6, 2009
at 6:29 am
…or spiritually and religiously or conscientiously ‘loving’?
By: Our Journey to Smile on July 6, 2009
at 6:32 am
Hi Josh,
Love the new bike pic! Hope all is going well and it was good to see the OMB link. I’m looking forward to getting a copy of the Cambridge Cable recording from MA Peace Action. Don’t know if you had the link to the Metrowest Daily News article on July 3rd, so here it is: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x735580818/Former-soldier-is-walking-away-from-the-war
Still raining a lot hear, hope you are walking into sunshine.
Carol
By: Carol Coakley on July 9, 2009
at 5:01 am
Hi Josh
Do you want to come to Ithaca while you’re in the neighborhood. We could arrange a a gathering on short notice
I could pick you up in my van, return you to your next destination.We could put you up.
My cell phone is 607 592 7692
Call or write
Bob Nape
Peace-Now-Ithaca
By: Bob Nape on July 13, 2009
at 4:15 pm
[...] Featured Event: Iraq Vet turned conscientious objector Josh Stieber 21-year-old Josh Stieber, an Iraq vet turned conscientious objector, was deployed to Baghdad as part of the Surge from Feb 07 to Apr 08. He'll be in Ithaca on Friday and in Trumansburg on Saturday as he travels across the country, sharing his experiences and learning everything he can. Check out his blog at Contagious Love Experiment. [...]
By: Iraq Vet turned conscientious objector Josh Stieber, Ithaca & Trumansburg on July 16, 2009
at 3:16 pm
Hi Josh,
I heard about you because I am a member of the Ithaca Friends Meeting where you will be Saturday. You may want to stop by on Sunday when we gather in silence to worship from 10:30-11:30 at the meeting house.
Good luck with the walk. There was a woman in the early 80’s who walked across America with a similar message-of peace. She called herself the “Peace Pilgrim”.
It takes courage to speak the truth.
Erica Weiss
By: Erica Weiss on July 18, 2009
at 2:16 am
Josh,
It is a huge obstacle to overcome the brainwashing of the US military. I hope you can muster up whatever it takes to talk to other veterans and even current soldiers. Tell them about how you got out and the steps you took. Tell them about the powerful words that made you see the people of Iraq as human beings rather than “insurgents” to be disposed of. Our government was once a beautiful thing; it was conceived to protect us from the very people who stripped it of its heart that are now in power. When we wrote the declaration of independence, we declared independence from an oppressive empire on the other side of the sea, and this is what we have become.
What you are doing is excellent. Tell everyone you meet about the power of love, but also bring to their attention the grim reality of the powers that be. You are brave indeed. I believe a soldier fights with his sword for an outside power, and a Warrior fights with his head, heart, and his hands for his own. You are a wandering Warrior. Use your training to help the resistance.
Find a copy of the book called “The Coming Insurrection” by the Invisible Committee. You’ll see that what they tell you about the French was never true. I also recommend Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. I think you’ll find relevance to your ideals in there, as well a pleasing read.
My blog is at elevationisperspective.blogspot.com. Check it out if you get the chance.
A.Fox
By: Acorn Fox on July 28, 2009
at 5:06 pm
Josh- enjoyed meeting you and your talk in Erie Pa July 28th! I give you credit for responding so truthfully and with great calmness to those who say and or write spiteful things. I pray daily for all the vets coming home from war for that is when the war begins here. The number of brain injuries, disabilities and more is devastating. Even the pro war folks didn;t think we’d be in Iraq for so long…..what happened to Bush declaring “victory” “mission accomplished”…think he used those words in 2003.
praying, working and striving for peace! Lora
By: Lora on July 29, 2009
at 8:42 pm
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By: SANDUSKY, OH – Josh Stieber: Conscientious Objector Speech « The Erie Wire on August 10, 2009
at 8:58 am
Hi Josh,
I just read your story due to a Michael Moore posting on Facebook. Your journey through life and the development of your faith is truly inspiring. I was wondering if you’ve ever read the series books by Neale Donald Walsh called Conversations With God?
Also, I must say, I am truly impressed by the love and kindness you have shown in answering some of the nasty comments people have made here.
Best of luck and blessings to you. I think you are a very courageous man for finding your truth and being willing to live it.
By: Cinnamon on August 11, 2009
at 11:06 am
Josh, I heard you speak in Erie, may God bless you as you continue your journey of Peace
By: maggie on August 14, 2009
at 8:09 pm
Dear Josh and Conor–
Looking forward to your arrival in Kansas. Now there are two of you to double my pleasure! Conor, I enjoyed reading your story and I am so glad you and Josh have joined forces. I plan to join you in your first day of biking from Manhattan.
Peace,
Dave Redmon
By: Dave on August 15, 2009
at 1:54 am
We’re excited about you speaking to our youth group and joining us for a “Lock-In” on the evening of Friday, August 28! It’ll be exciting to have you tell your story to our kids and we look forward to a good discussion!
- Jess
By: Jess on August 16, 2009
at 1:17 pm
Josh and Connor:
I really appreciate you guys participating in our conference yesterday (8/15). You have a great story to tell and I certainly hope you have a chance to repeat it as you move across the USA. I was a CO in WWII and share your views on the futility of war and the actually more practical way of accomplishing good through nonviolence. Blessings on your efforts!!
By: Ernie Barr on August 16, 2009
at 7:30 pm
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By: Back from a War, Two vets walk/bike/ and catch rides across the country for love « The New Methodists on August 25, 2009
at 9:30 pm
Hey Josh and Connor,
Thanks for your blog and for such keen insight into war and the practice of faith. It reminds me of a documentary by John Campea I watched a while back. It’s called Prince of Peace, God of War. Not sure if you’ve seen it but it’s available here–> http://www.themovieblog.com/2008/10/download-prince-of-peace-god-of-war-for-free.
cheers,
Mighty
By: Might on August 31, 2009
at 7:28 am
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By: Contagious Love « Divest from Death on September 3, 2009
at 9:13 am
It was a pleasure to meet you both and listen to your ideas. I find your courage inspiring. Please carry on. I’ve added you to the blog roll at divestfromdeath.wordpress.com
By: Jim Davidson on September 3, 2009
at 9:23 am
It was so awesome to meet you both in Indianapolis. The conversation I had with you was one of the best conversations of my life–you inspire me so much! Thank you for your courage, open-mindedness and wisdom. What you passed on to me has shaped my perspective and enriched my life since I’ve met you. Best of luck in your travels!
By: Annie on September 8, 2009
at 10:37 pm
Thanks, Conor, for sharing in our Sunday School class at Bethel College Mennonite Church last Sunday. Keep up the good work!
By: Jeanette on September 12, 2009
at 7:51 pm
Email me for names & addresses: Cynthia Gregg, Oshkosh; SCOTTSBLUFF: Shirley Flack, Jennifer Rogers, Sandy harrach, Angie McGrew, Jean Vancil. I will email them your information.
Best of luck. You lighted up my life. No pun intended.
Marion Wed 9/23
By: Marion Bahensky on September 16, 2009
at 4:26 pm
Thanks for making time with our kids at Manaia. My apologies for spacing the coffee promise, but I hope the other “Joe” made up for it. Happy Travels!!
By: Laurie Bishop on September 30, 2009
at 3:26 pm
Hey guys!
As one cross-country walker to another, good luck and good work! You are almost there.
Enjoy what you’re doing for as long as you can.
Would love to talk to you after you finish and compare notes! – BJ Hill
http://www.walkamerica2008.com
By: BJ Hill on October 3, 2009
at 6:38 pm
Hey guys from one cross-country walker to another, good luck and good job. Enjoy the moment while it lasts. After you finish and come back, would love to talk to you and swap some stories.
Peace – BJ Hill
By: BJ Hill on October 3, 2009
at 8:16 pm
Hey Josh and Conor – I am amazed and delighted and moved to hear of your Contagious Love Experiment coming after your tours in Iraq. I wish you love and power (the good kind) and success in your endeavor and in life! I guess I also want to say that what you are doing is in a way, radical (again a good way!) and something I have fervently and increasingly believed. I can’t say enough how happy I am to learn of your endeavor. Take care.
By: kathleen foley on October 5, 2009
at 4:24 am
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By: Two Marines on a Contagious Love Experiment « beFirZst.com on October 22, 2009
at 12:20 pm
not to be nit-picky, but I was Josh was in the army and Conor was in the marines. Thanks for linking us!
By: contagiousloveexperiment on October 23, 2009
at 12:19 am
Best thing I’ve read since the last time I opened the Bible.
By: aforestcreature2 on October 27, 2009
at 5:32 am